Ritual Intoxication and Psychedelics
"Weak men took Opioids to numb the pain. Strong men took Methamphetamine to become even stronger!"
I have been in several conversations recently about drug use. There are some people on the right, the far right, who promote the use of psychedelics. The normie right is also getting into Hallucinogens due to the JRE effect. And… I think you shouldn’t do psychedelics. And I hope that I don’t end up being goaded into ever doing them, because if I do I might end up rescinding my opinion here, but if I do that then don’t trust me.
First of all, drugs were not used in history as much as they are used today. Yes, people in history used drugs. But drugs were usually used for medicinal purposes. Sometimes for ritual or productive purposes. Not very often do you hear about people in history using drugs “recreationally” other than Alcohol. Alcohol is not just a drug, it’s a macronutrient. And usually alcoholic beverages contain other macronutrients, which makes the consumption of alcohol fairly practical. This doesn’t mean that junkies didn’t exist in the past, there certainly were addicts, but it was much harder to fuel drug addictions at this time. And much harder to get involved in them. Recreational drug use seems to be largely tied to Islam, with its prohibitions on alcohol. We see the rise of Hashish as a potent form of Cannabis, and we see early instances of mass recreational Opium use in Ottoman Constantinople. Coffee was also originally mostly an Islamic phenomenon, but I would consider Coffee and other stimulants as in their own category. These drugs are ostensibly productive, even if not actually healthy, and so there is a new purpose to absorbing them into your bloodstream.
It wasn’t really until the early modern period that you start hearing about non-Alcoholic recreational drug use as a social epidemic. Tobacco, like Coffee, actually serves an ostensible purpose, and while unhealthy in the long-run is not the sort of thing that rapidly deteriorates your health or can be overdosed on. All of those Chinamen the English got hooked on opium, however… That’s a different story. It seems like only around the latter half of the 20th century that you hear a great deal of reports of people dying from “drug overdose”. Again, excepting anything related to Alcohol. Now, drugs are everywhere, and are becoming less and less socially taboo. After all, if we’re gonna be “body positive” then we probably shouldn’t bother demeaning someone for doing Xanax or Cocaine, or drinking “Lean”. In fact, there is now a cottage industry within pharmacology which is basically centered around trying to prove how good psychedelics and marijuana are for you. So much silliness. “Oh, it rewires your brain! Or something!” Yeah… I don’t really buy any of it. Even if I did, it’s not how you should go about these sort of things. Hallucinogens usually evolve in Plants and Mushrooms as a form of insecticide, but for humans it only gives our brains a small taste of what the insect nerves experience. It is not a magical substance though, it is basically a neurotoxin.
And that’s why, before I get into any business about all of the stuff pop science articles make up about ancient cultures using psychedelics, I already want to state that in the modern day it is not a proper way to achieve any sort of enlightenment or catharsis. You know for a fact that what you are putting in your body is basically just giving you temporary brain damage and causing you to think irrationally. There is no rationalizing it as a “divine gift”, there is no reason to think anything you see on the trip corresponds to some hidden truth. And there is no reason that surrendering your will to a physical contaminant is the path to properly understanding the contingency of the physical, phenomenal world, on the ideal one. And once you’ve taken it, now you’ve let it plant ideas in your head prematurely. It’s like when you hack in a video game to get to the final boss or get some weapon or something and now find that half of the quests in the game are no longer playable.
The only actual half-legitimate argument in this case, which I already talked about, is the “left-handed” tantric argument, and I don’t think the sort of spiritual types who talk about how mushrooms enlightened them really have the guts to take this path. I don’t really support this path in general, but I do understand that it is theoretically possible.
But even if you make this argument, there will be people who insist that ritual drug use is actually “based as fuck doe” because ancient Indo-European religious strata did it. Again, see my argument. The ancients genuinely did not go into this process knowing that it was a mind-altering substance. This allowed for a much more authentic catharsis when on such drugs, but the truth is, I don’t think any Indo-European groups actually used hallucinogens in religious rituals to a significant extent. Let’s go off with some common claims.
“The Greek Oracles were huffing intoxicating volcanic gasses”: No, probably not even possible geographically. Say what you want about RFB, but I do enjoy this video, and his explanation at the end about how common it was for ancient religious figures to enter ecstatic or trance-like states purely through religious devotion and concentration.
“Eleusinians were having Ergotism-induced hallucinations” (and really anything involving people eating Ergot): Ergotism is not just a “trip”, you can get really sick from it and the symptoms are not pretty. Vomiting, nausea, fever, diarrhea, convulsions, foaming at the mouth, intense burning sensation, and delirium. It isn’t the sort of experience that would be desired or result in some sort of enlightened ecstatic emotion.
“Dionysians were spiking their wine with something”: No evidence for this at all other than “They were acting weird so it had to be more serious drugs than alcohol”. Again, refer to the Oracles section. people can altered states of consciousness through pure conviction, and this is something I wish I could do. Even a lot of Catholic saints experienced this phenomenon.
“Soma/Haoma was weed/magicmushrooms”: No. Just no. Soma and Haoma are described pretty clearly as something which brings you energy and clarify, not something which mellows you down like weed, or something that makes you hallucinate. It is more like a stimulant, like Ephedrine, but it may just be a drink which has other pleasant qualities which cause people invigoration. I like the idea that it is sugarcane juice.
“Ancient Vedic weed slonking”: This one isn’t entirely impossible, but Vedic descriptions of weed use the term Bhang, which later on only refers to the leaf of the plant and its products. Marijuana leaves contain little to no THC, and especially back then when cannabis was much weaker.
“Germanic Magic Mushrooms, Sacred Mead/Berserker”: Once again, this is pretty much entirely a contrived explanation for something which doesn’t need explaining. No textual evidence for it. Some people also say it was Henbane responsible for Berserkers, but the Berserker phenomenon is sort of something else which is different from entheogenic drug use. Also, Henbane can have some pretty nasty side effects. But the Berserkers were in a little bit more volatile of a state than other groups so maybe you could accept that a little better. Sort of like a bull which gets poked in the bum and goes apeshit.
“Scythian hotboxing”: Okay, this one is actually almost certainly true. The Greeks record it, and there is evidence for it. Although, it’s unclear whether or not the Scythians were smoking the entire bud, or just the seeds as Herodotus sates. But, keep in mind that in the past few decades alone the THC content in marijuana has quadrupled. Weed strains in the past were just way less strong, especially through an inefficient form of inhalation like simply throwing the seeds over hot stones.
I don’t have a problem with the Scythians, they were a very epic people, but some people go a bit far in Scythian glazing. They think they were the “Super Aryan God Super Aryans” or some shit. Well, they weren’t. They clearly had Siberian influences and the ones really far east had pretty big amounts of Siberian ancestry. There’s no doubt that their religious practices were influenced by Siberians. I already talked about the Enaree in my post on Troons, they’re probably a Siberian influence. Although I don’t consider them damning to Scythian society for the reasons I discuss in that post.
“Yamnaya were Weed Dealers”: I see a lot of pop history articles probably written by retards who claim this, but never have I been able to find evidence of the Yamnaya themselves, or other early “Western Steppe Herders”, actually engaging in cannabis smoking or vaporization themselves. The evidence for them trading it also seems pretty scarce. And even if they were, I again stress that cannabis has multiple uses not related to drugs. All I found was from David Anthony, where he briefly mentions a burial in the Neolithic Balkans around the time of Indo-European influence (not necessarily full Indo-Europeanization. Ex: Varna Culture is Indo-Europeanized to some degree but genetically EEF) with carbonized hemp seeds.
Oh yeah, let me clarify: I don’t like weed because it makes people act gay, and because it smells bad and stoners have made my life miserable by stinking up the college dorms and causing fire alarms. I once was playing volleyball and I saw two stoners smoking and kissing in the forest and I was like, why can’t we hunt these guys like bounty hunters? UGH!!! But, this is much more about the issue of Psychedelics.
Stimulants are probably the most justifiable choice of drugs, because they make you more energetic, focused, and quick-witted for a time if given in correct doses. Nicotine probably is not as bad as they say it is for you on its own, but I wouldn’t call it good for you either. Alcohol is pretty bad for you, but I’m actually drinking as I write this because I haven’t had a Beer in months. Methamphetamine is bad for you, but I think it is understandable to keep some pocket meth on you in case of an emergency sleepless Panzer ride through the low countries. The ideal drug would be sort of like that one Bradley Cooper took in that one movie, where it just makes your brain work really well. But I think pills like that might be making a deal with the devil. Messing with your brain is just a bad idea. Mess with your body, sure, but mess with your brain too much and things start to get odd.
Anyways, back to the psychedelics. I’ve explained why I don’t think psychedelics are a proper path towards religious enlightenment or things like that, but why do I think it’s bad?
Well, I think that a lot of psychedelics do encourage the user to become “aloof” from the world, and aloof from themselves, despite not coming to this state of mind through reason or concentration. You don’t really want someone like this, you don’t really want to be like this. You end up with people who are shirking their duty in this world, and will convince others to do the same. This is the sort of decadent behavior u see in India… One of the reasons it is such a shithole… Dalits bathing in garbage and shit and promoting socialism while their rightful priests just sit around trying to blip out of existence. You know, I was there, when Lord Indra fought the Dasyus, all those years ago. And I remember, the impious, black-skinned flat-faced aboriginals almost had me. But then a priest by the name of Artasmara actually saved me by using the Solar Flare technique. Where is that today? UGH!!!
In this sense, psychedelics are actually really good at their job. For insect, yes, they kill insect. For human being, they give that person “ego death” and make them sit on their ass and not reproducing their whole life because its provisional and not important. 1000 years later, not only will the bugs that survive all have an aversion to that plant due to darwinistic pressure, but so will the humans! How very intriguing…
Ok whatever, but what does Ferd have to say about this?
I’ve smoked pot twice and it did litterally nothing. Kill potheads with hammers for being annoying and making shit up