Good overview, brother. I have only met a few real Irish Americans, I know a few Scots Americans too but most of these are family. I know that in some places there is a higher Gaelic population, but nearly everyone I knew and grew up with are Midwestern Germans.
My father's family has been in America since Culloden, and they married Scots here in America until my father married my mom, who is a more representative Amerimutt. It is weird being from a line who has been here so long, and this line kept the memory and identity of being Scots going into the current day, but then other implants from Europe or elsewhere are quick to drop their prior identities. I mean, my forefathers fought in every major American war on this landmass and yet they continued to remember who they were and where they came from. I understand this is a unique case in many respects, but it's something I've thought about often. Other groups have done the same thing, I know old Anglo families in the hollers of Tennessee and Virginia who remember pretty well too, and who are still largely Anglo in genetics. I know lots of relatively recent implants from Germany, England, and the Nordic countries who all came to the Midwest when my grandparents were young. Most Europeans in America have forgotten those deeper roots though, and the cultural memory of these great events and migrations are misremembered and not put into personal context. Those European colonists and Industrial migrants are why we are here - we didn't sprout from the ground!
I like to imagine that some of the Gaelic lore concerning Scythia, Iberia, and Anatolia just have to do with a really old cultural memory from the Bell-Beakers. Bell-Beakers come from the Corded Ware Culture which in turn came from Yamnaya. Yamnaya is ancestral to Scythians, among countless others. The other Corded Ware descendants like the Swedes and Saxons and others are also given a Scythian origin in old texts. The Bell-Beakers also spread into Iberia, and it has been shown through some studies that Iberian Bell-Beaker women were a hot commodity in Bell-Beaker culture, and have been found far and wide. Perhaps that is the source of the Iberian claims for Gaels. This just seems like a cultural memory to me, a memory of something older from the Bronze Age that is ancestral to all these groups. Similar to how in America, there are fading memories of our ancestors and where we come from, and new myths forming around real history.
My idea would be that the shared Corded Ware origin is why ancient peoples mix up these Western tribes with origins in Scythia - misremembering. Its like if Europe fell and became Eurasia, and our descendants in America misremember and say "we are Eurasians!"
are you actually of irish catholic descent? so many americans say irish but don’t realize they mean scots irish who were basically scottish settlers in ireland
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The gaels of Ireland are the ones God made mad, for their wars are merry and their songs are sad.
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Good overview, brother. I have only met a few real Irish Americans, I know a few Scots Americans too but most of these are family. I know that in some places there is a higher Gaelic population, but nearly everyone I knew and grew up with are Midwestern Germans.
My father's family has been in America since Culloden, and they married Scots here in America until my father married my mom, who is a more representative Amerimutt. It is weird being from a line who has been here so long, and this line kept the memory and identity of being Scots going into the current day, but then other implants from Europe or elsewhere are quick to drop their prior identities. I mean, my forefathers fought in every major American war on this landmass and yet they continued to remember who they were and where they came from. I understand this is a unique case in many respects, but it's something I've thought about often. Other groups have done the same thing, I know old Anglo families in the hollers of Tennessee and Virginia who remember pretty well too, and who are still largely Anglo in genetics. I know lots of relatively recent implants from Germany, England, and the Nordic countries who all came to the Midwest when my grandparents were young. Most Europeans in America have forgotten those deeper roots though, and the cultural memory of these great events and migrations are misremembered and not put into personal context. Those European colonists and Industrial migrants are why we are here - we didn't sprout from the ground!
I like to imagine that some of the Gaelic lore concerning Scythia, Iberia, and Anatolia just have to do with a really old cultural memory from the Bell-Beakers. Bell-Beakers come from the Corded Ware Culture which in turn came from Yamnaya. Yamnaya is ancestral to Scythians, among countless others. The other Corded Ware descendants like the Swedes and Saxons and others are also given a Scythian origin in old texts. The Bell-Beakers also spread into Iberia, and it has been shown through some studies that Iberian Bell-Beaker women were a hot commodity in Bell-Beaker culture, and have been found far and wide. Perhaps that is the source of the Iberian claims for Gaels. This just seems like a cultural memory to me, a memory of something older from the Bronze Age that is ancestral to all these groups. Similar to how in America, there are fading memories of our ancestors and where we come from, and new myths forming around real history.
Yeah, IIRC some Gothic chronicle mentions that Wotan comes from Scythia. And I think that one might be an earlier writing
I’m pretty sure Scythians also came from Corded Ware.
Yes. Corded Ware --> Sintashta --> Andronovo --> Tagar/Karasuk(??) --> Scythians
Corded Ware --> Battle Axe Culture --> Nordic Bronze Age --> Goths
My idea would be that the shared Corded Ware origin is why ancient peoples mix up these Western tribes with origins in Scythia - misremembering. Its like if Europe fell and became Eurasia, and our descendants in America misremember and say "we are Eurasians!"
Irish people talk funny.
As a true Mick Geezer, I certify sectionalism to receive his new Irish title and name: Seamus O'Leary McPattyflannigan of Southern Cork
I myself am a scotch irish 2nd gen immigrant up here in canada :P
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That’s some major series of Ls they’ve had
This is just an overview, there are plenty of good and bad events in the history of Ireland he did not cover.
are you actually of irish catholic descent? so many americans say irish but don’t realize they mean scots irish who were basically scottish settlers in ireland
Yes, Irish Catholic
2nd generation McKraut (50/50). Glad I wasn’t born an Anglo Protestant whatever that flaws of bog trotters and krauts.
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