Which is what he tried to show but many wignats attacked him and called him a jew for showing that some ashkenazi jews grouped within southern european parameters but Cypriots didn't.
I shouldn't say "genetically middle eastern". They're genetically more European than any Middle Easterners outside of Anatolia, but they're less European than anyone on the European continent or any other islands off of Europe
It has always confused me why Malta has semitic and not north african DNA (IIRC), I wonder if the arab elites there were more unmixed. Afterall, theres this interesting genealogy site linked to me by a sicilian mutual online: https://maltagenealogy.com/arabsicilymalta/ . It kinda blew my mind since I always thought it was the elites who left and the commoners who stayed during the norman conquest, but it turns out they remained
Yeah but i mean malta's "eastern" heritage is much more elevated, compared to say sicily, so i wonder if its much more recent considering the fact there was zero population continuity on the island and that they brought most of the settlers from sicily
This will help my historical fantasy a lot with my mental understanding of the Corded Ware, Catacomb, Sintashta, and Andronovo (among others)
Very interesting, and I'm fascinated by the religious conjecture. Please, expand on this if you can sometime. The split between the Vedic and Avestan in very intriguing to me.
And yet it flies over the Christians’ heads that their beloved hero Issac was God’s planned incest baby. It was just something that everyone kinda sorta know about but not really focusing on. A sort of pre-K training for the lifetime of Not Noticing.
Its very strange, it seems that it was allowed but it wasnt some sort of widespread practice, I guess it's similar to the modern day stereotype of middle easterners engaging in polygamy despite it being an incredibly rare phenomenon either way.
The latest evidence definitely points to Indo-Iranian being Corded Ware, with it either being the most basal of Corded Ware languages, or being sister to Balto-Slavic. But you do mention that Balto-Slavs and Germanic have the same R1a clade in common. I usually see Germanic as being either closer to Italo-Celtic, or an intermediate family between I-C and B-S, but I believe Peter Nimitz wrote a paper on Germanic where he used the same evidence of the R1a Haplogroup to argue that Germanic was aligned closer to Balto-Slavic & Indo-Iranic, or at least that the Germanic urheimat originated far closer to where their proto languages were surely spoken.
The people who composed the Rig Veda were likely mostly of Aryan stock. The later 3 probably less than the initial invaders but more than modern populations of the subcontinent. The Old Avestans texts (mainly the Gathas but a few others) were probably composed by people genetically very similar to Bronze Age Northern Europe, while the Younger Avestan texts were composed durian or after Yaz II which was half BMAC and half Andronovo (but probably still pretty phenotypically European)
Christian Weston Chandler-derived Srubnaya Culture.
Which is what he tried to show but many wignats attacked him and called him a jew for showing that some ashkenazi jews grouped within southern european parameters but Cypriots didn't.
Did you see the recent shitstorm over survive the jive's tweet about what is and isn't a part of europe? Cypriots were not happy
No, but for the record Cypriots are genetically Middle Eastern and they’re frankly barely even descended from Greeks at all.
I shouldn't say "genetically middle eastern". They're genetically more European than any Middle Easterners outside of Anatolia, but they're less European than anyone on the European continent or any other islands off of Europe
>but they're less European than anyone on the European continent or any other islands off of Europe
What about Malta?
Technically Malta is on the African tectonic plate
It has always confused me why Malta has semitic and not north african DNA (IIRC), I wonder if the arab elites there were more unmixed. Afterall, theres this interesting genealogy site linked to me by a sicilian mutual online: https://maltagenealogy.com/arabsicilymalta/ . It kinda blew my mind since I always thought it was the elites who left and the commoners who stayed during the norman conquest, but it turns out they remained
They have only very minor levantine ancestry
Yeah but i mean malta's "eastern" heritage is much more elevated, compared to say sicily, so i wonder if its much more recent considering the fact there was zero population continuity on the island and that they brought most of the settlers from sicily
Didn't realize I messed up my other comment, it should've been in response to your first reply :/
This will help my historical fantasy a lot with my mental understanding of the Corded Ware, Catacomb, Sintashta, and Andronovo (among others)
Very interesting, and I'm fascinated by the religious conjecture. Please, expand on this if you can sometime. The split between the Vedic and Avestan in very intriguing to me.
Thanks for discussing it without going full wignat and condescending etc
Punjab and Iran still get along well.
https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2017/09/25/the-dominion-of-the-gods-rich-pastures-and-the-dispossessed-cultivators-of-the-land-in-the-gathas-of-zarathustra/
https://nitter.poast.org/Parikramah/status/1237606728260186114#m
Punjab traditionally raids Iran for cattle & women.
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Could you also do a post on the DasRajna and your analysis of it?
> inbred barbarians
fairly certain the zoroastrians encouraged sibling marriages
They did, but it was a later addition to the religion
And yet it flies over the Christians’ heads that their beloved hero Issac was God’s planned incest baby. It was just something that everyone kinda sorta know about but not really focusing on. A sort of pre-K training for the lifetime of Not Noticing.
Its very strange, it seems that it was allowed but it wasnt some sort of widespread practice, I guess it's similar to the modern day stereotype of middle easterners engaging in polygamy despite it being an incredibly rare phenomenon either way.
https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/incest-and-inbreeding ; this site has a lot of interesting material on iranian history
It was something the royal families and magi were known for. And yes, Iranica is a goated site
The latest evidence definitely points to Indo-Iranian being Corded Ware, with it either being the most basal of Corded Ware languages, or being sister to Balto-Slavic. But you do mention that Balto-Slavs and Germanic have the same R1a clade in common. I usually see Germanic as being either closer to Italo-Celtic, or an intermediate family between I-C and B-S, but I believe Peter Nimitz wrote a paper on Germanic where he used the same evidence of the R1a Haplogroup to argue that Germanic was aligned closer to Balto-Slavic & Indo-Iranic, or at least that the Germanic urheimat originated far closer to where their proto languages were surely spoken.
So iz the Iranians Aryans and da Indians POCs?
The people who composed the Rig Veda were likely mostly of Aryan stock. The later 3 probably less than the initial invaders but more than modern populations of the subcontinent. The Old Avestans texts (mainly the Gathas but a few others) were probably composed by people genetically very similar to Bronze Age Northern Europe, while the Younger Avestan texts were composed durian or after Yaz II which was half BMAC and half Andronovo (but probably still pretty phenotypically European)
BMAC is a mix between Neolithic (pre-Aryan) Iran and Neolithic Anatolia (for comparison, early European farmers were 50-100% Neolithic Anarolian)