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Eugene's avatar

Med Supremacists seem way more common than genuine nordicists even though the former is constantly crying about the latter. They attack Northern Europeans like leftists attacks white people, associating us first with racism (Nordicism), then proceeding to own us by saying how while “they” had temples and colosseums we had mud huts. It’s safe edgy racism that even communists adopt all the time.

And it doesn’t end there, we have these degenerates claiming EEF for themselves on the one hand, and on the other we have Indians and central asiatics claiming Indo-Europeans.

All I know is European Supremacy and especially Northern European Supremacy has severely damaged the minds of nonwhites. Resentment is a huge factor, but I also blame the liberal push away from so-called “Eurocentrism”.

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The concept of a Mediterranean race was promoted by Madison Grant, Lothrop Stoddard, and Carleton Coon (in conjugation with their European peers). They didn't have access to fancy FST values. They mostly were working off the cephalic index.

They noted that southern Europeans and Arabs (even Somalians) have narrow, tall skulls. On the other hand, "Alpines" (central Europeans, ranging from France, to Switzerland, all the way into Russia) existed in this intermediate zone between northern and southern Europe, and they tended to have wider, shorter skulls. Finally, when you get to northern Europe (Scandinavia and England), you get tall, narrow skulls again.

What exactly explains this? These American anthropologists believed that it was because the Mediterranean race was "albinized" to become the Nordic race. But somehow the in-between race (Alpine) retained their pre-Aryan traits. They believed (as Hitler did) that Aryans came from Greece (Anatolia), because that was where the earliest evidence for farming came from. It's also where the Bible says that Noah landed.

They were correct that farming came from Anatolia, but they were incorrect to correlate the expansion of Anatolian Farmers with the Aryan expansion. We now know those were two completely different groups with different histories -- but they conflated them into one super race responsible for farming, chariot warfare, metallurgy, and pretty much every other invention.

So the "Mediterranean race" and "Nordic race" were declared "Aryan," while the poor "Alpines" were declared the unfortunate natives, the left-overs of pre-Aryan Europe. This informed Hitler's love of Italians as Aryan, but his rejection of Slavs as Alpine. I never fully understood why these 19th and 20th century racists thought that Aryanization "skipped over" the Alpines and went straight from Italy to Scandinavia.

Your data on the EEF DNA of Celts as being greater than EEF in the Middle East is surprising. It turns out that the Mediterranean race is, in fact, Irish. This is something that was a popular theory among Grant, Stoddard, and Coon, because of the cephalic index of Irish people. So maybe they were right after all.

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