I’m saying it rigt here, right now. This is the best boob break I have ever posted, in the history of my substack career. You’d have to go back to the ifunny days to counter it
Why Hungarians choose a Uralic language and dropped the Ossetian Jasz language... I don't know. Nuffin wrong with an Iranic languages if I say so meself... Uralic is a right bloody disaster, it is.
Uraliens took over and compromized their gubmint. But who knows if they actually have Uralic ancestry. Yeah, early Hungarian elites WERE Uralic, and it’s been demonstrated with genetics that it lasted some time. But Pannonia had already had slight East Asian DNA under the Sarmatians, and it had already been hit with the Huns, Avars, and would go on to be crushed by the Mongols (again — Avars were Mongols too).
Pannonians and the balto-slav's of pre-suomi Finland are history's first weebs. Dropped perfectly fine Indo-European languages for exotic oriental Uralic rangruage... is this what K-pop will do to America's youth?!
>For example, no Scythians were as East Asian as the Kazakhs, despite the Kazakhs trying to claim Scythians as their own
Is there any reason why Kyrgyzstanis have some of the highest rates of R1a? from what ive read it just seems to be a founders effect due to the low diversity but does this mean that some indo europeans just adopted the language of their east siberian wives? Also unrelated, but its somewhat interesting when that guy who posts those "WHITE MAN ORDERS NOODLES IN PERFECT CHINESE" is assumed to be from xinjiang- probably the jewish ancestry lol
The claim, if I recall correctly, was that many peoples in central & western asia are indo-iranic peoples, including the Scythians- many of the peoples coming from the west like the sakas, he claims, were descended from Indians and had Vedic traditions, allowing them to assimilate easily
In some sense, yes. I wouldn’t say Abraxas is an Indo-European God, there is very little known about his origin, but he can certainly be tied to various primordial Indo-European beings. But don’t get confused into thinking that Gnosticism is Indo-European. Gnosticism and Zoroastrianism are very opposing, because Zoroastrians (as well as Platonists and Norse Pagans) believe that the world was ordered by a good god while Gnostics believe it was ordered by an evil god.
So very fascinating- I'm reading two of your articles rn, I've just discovered you today and all this is quite fascinating. Though I find myself lost sometimes- you mention names of tribes & cultures i've never heard of, mythology i'm unfamiliar with, people I don't know, etc. It takes me a long time to finish these posts because I tangent off whilst reading on what you reference. Stone Age Herbalist, Survive the Jive, Gnostic Informant, Imperium Press, and Raging Mandrill are some other folks I feel the same way torwards. Great post & channel overall
"haha im so cyrptic cuz nobody knows what im talking about" You're a DIPSHIT pretending to be a SAGE in the commentsection of a substack article, let that SINK IN
Certainly the Shakyas were assimilated into the Vedic political and religious tradition for the most part, and the Scythians themselves were not a people void of priests or inconsiderate of them. It is possible the Shakya tribe is named coincidentally similarly to the Sakas — but etymologically I don’t see any reason to assume the indigenous etymology is more likely than the Saka etymology other than parsimony.
I might have to edit some of the stuff about the Munda, I read that Ikshvaku was of Munda etymology but it’s possible that’s just wrong.
Yes, I was never claiming the Buddha was an indo-Scythian. Witzel claims if the Shakya are of Scythian origin it is more likely that they came from an earlier Iranic invasion during or before the Achaemenid invasion of India. The Sogdians fought a lot under the Persians
Yes, Orphism is very Buddhism-like. I’ve also heard a lot of people say Pyrrho was influenced by Buddhism. What do you think of that?
From what I understand Heraclitus isn’t explicitly denying the existence of an ultimate reality in his surviving texts, he just doesn’t identify it with the “actual” and instead identifies it with the “missing-ness” of things and their constant state of flux.
Heraclitus is also not particularly well-recorded, so it is possible there are missing elements to his thought. Few of his writings survive, and unlike Parmenides and Pythagoras he did not develop a large cast of students who carried on his legacy.
Excellent, excellent boob break, sectionalism. Bravo!
I’m saying it rigt here, right now. This is the best boob break I have ever posted, in the history of my substack career. You’d have to go back to the ifunny days to counter it
I should print out your stacks and strike debates at unsuspecting strangers
Why Hungarians choose a Uralic language and dropped the Ossetian Jasz language... I don't know. Nuffin wrong with an Iranic languages if I say so meself... Uralic is a right bloody disaster, it is.
Uraliens took over and compromized their gubmint. But who knows if they actually have Uralic ancestry. Yeah, early Hungarian elites WERE Uralic, and it’s been demonstrated with genetics that it lasted some time. But Pannonia had already had slight East Asian DNA under the Sarmatians, and it had already been hit with the Huns, Avars, and would go on to be crushed by the Mongols (again — Avars were Mongols too).
Pannonians and the balto-slav's of pre-suomi Finland are history's first weebs. Dropped perfectly fine Indo-European languages for exotic oriental Uralic rangruage... is this what K-pop will do to America's youth?!
"And a few are just strange, and presumably have some sort of metaphorical meaning, like webbed hands and feet."
I met a kid named Finn who had webbed feet. I'm not even joking.
>For example, no Scythians were as East Asian as the Kazakhs, despite the Kazakhs trying to claim Scythians as their own
Is there any reason why Kyrgyzstanis have some of the highest rates of R1a? from what ive read it just seems to be a founders effect due to the low diversity but does this mean that some indo europeans just adopted the language of their east siberian wives? Also unrelated, but its somewhat interesting when that guy who posts those "WHITE MAN ORDERS NOODLES IN PERFECT CHINESE" is assumed to be from xinjiang- probably the jewish ancestry lol
This was an extraordinary piece.
I live 15 minutes from a Zoroastrian temple in Southern California- will they accept me? Have you met any?
Never met then IRL
You think they'll accept me? I did see a "Social justice & gender equality" section on their website
What do you say to the indo-centric claims of Scythians being Indians and Vedic temples in the Caucasus? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE8Rlwgtjc4
Just one of many ethno-narcissistic Hindutva channels which denies the Aryan invasions. I don’t hate Hindutva but they are very much ethnonarcissists
The claim, if I recall correctly, was that many peoples in central & western asia are indo-iranic peoples, including the Scythians- many of the peoples coming from the west like the sakas, he claims, were descended from Indians and had Vedic traditions, allowing them to assimilate easily
He's the most prominent one- but I thought it was the "Aryan migration" now? Isn't the invasion hypothesis now debunked?
Is Zurvan actually Abraxas? Is Abraxas an IE god?
In some sense, yes. I wouldn’t say Abraxas is an Indo-European God, there is very little known about his origin, but he can certainly be tied to various primordial Indo-European beings. But don’t get confused into thinking that Gnosticism is Indo-European. Gnosticism and Zoroastrianism are very opposing, because Zoroastrians (as well as Platonists and Norse Pagans) believe that the world was ordered by a good god while Gnostics believe it was ordered by an evil god.
So very fascinating- I'm reading two of your articles rn, I've just discovered you today and all this is quite fascinating. Though I find myself lost sometimes- you mention names of tribes & cultures i've never heard of, mythology i'm unfamiliar with, people I don't know, etc. It takes me a long time to finish these posts because I tangent off whilst reading on what you reference. Stone Age Herbalist, Survive the Jive, Gnostic Informant, Imperium Press, and Raging Mandrill are some other folks I feel the same way torwards. Great post & channel overall
If you have the time, I would strongly recommend my essay on Chaoskampf:
https://sectionalismnotes.substack.com/p/chaoskampf-as-the-perennial-tradition
It’s my longest post, but I talk about the essential difference between Gnostics and “Traditional” religions
You'll never find it by doing this...
Still, I'll probably read this
You're needed, but will never find it
Enlightenment?
Not even that. You will simply never find it. That thing
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I don't know what that means
That's why you'll never find it
Unless... you want to give up what you're doing, which is exactly why you're needed...
Think
"haha im so cyrptic cuz nobody knows what im talking about" You're a DIPSHIT pretending to be a SAGE in the commentsection of a substack article, let that SINK IN
Certainly the Shakyas were assimilated into the Vedic political and religious tradition for the most part, and the Scythians themselves were not a people void of priests or inconsiderate of them. It is possible the Shakya tribe is named coincidentally similarly to the Sakas — but etymologically I don’t see any reason to assume the indigenous etymology is more likely than the Saka etymology other than parsimony.
I might have to edit some of the stuff about the Munda, I read that Ikshvaku was of Munda etymology but it’s possible that’s just wrong.
Yes, I was never claiming the Buddha was an indo-Scythian. Witzel claims if the Shakya are of Scythian origin it is more likely that they came from an earlier Iranic invasion during or before the Achaemenid invasion of India. The Sogdians fought a lot under the Persians
Yes, Orphism is very Buddhism-like. I’ve also heard a lot of people say Pyrrho was influenced by Buddhism. What do you think of that?
From what I understand Heraclitus isn’t explicitly denying the existence of an ultimate reality in his surviving texts, he just doesn’t identify it with the “actual” and instead identifies it with the “missing-ness” of things and their constant state of flux.
Heraclitus is also not particularly well-recorded, so it is possible there are missing elements to his thought. Few of his writings survive, and unlike Parmenides and Pythagoras he did not develop a large cast of students who carried on his legacy.